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24Jun

I suppose I’ll use this as my first post since it is the coolest thing I’ve done in the past week or two (in my opinion).

So [noROBOT] was low on cash (we had about $300.00), and we needed at least 3-5 microphones. One of which was a yamaha subkick. I voted against buying it since I thought $370.00 wasn’t worth it for the microphone. I really wanted that heart pounding bass drum sound though. So after some research online I found out that a bunch of people made their own “subkicks” based on the yamaha design. Truth be told, yamaha stole the idea from the DIY subkick creators actually.

HISTORY TIME:

In the past there was this nifty speaker made by Yamaha called the NS10. This bad boy picked up the lows of the lows. So someone out there discovered that it would be super useful to pick up bass drum frequencies. After this started catching on throughout the forum world Yamaha started to discontinue the NS10 and shortly after the Yamaha Subkick went on sale for the nifty price of $370.00 US.

The Jeff and Parris Method:

For those of you that don’t know him, Jeff is the drummer of [noROBOT] woo! Him and I decided to create the most amazing subkick ever. So we went down to “Music Go Round” bought a 30 dollar tom shell which was 12 inches, and I decided to pull my 10 inch bass speaker out of my old bass amp. We mounted the speaker into the tom with L shaped hinges that didn’t bend (we had to use a hacksaw to get it to fit just right) then we stripped down a standard XLR cable on the female end and wired it up to the speaker. The first version got the job done, but it didn’t sound like what we wanted. Definitely not earth shattering. I talked to Tim over at Earcandycabs.com about speakers and he set me on the right path. After researching about several different 10 inch speakers, I settled on the Eminence Legend BP102 10 inch bass speaker which has a usable frequency range from 40hz-2khz which makes it perfect for picking up those sounds you can only feel but not hear. This one seems to have gotten the job done. At first we had a tom head covering the speaker, but it made the bass drum sound boomy, as if we were hitting both the tom and the bass drum simultaneously; however, we removed it and it sounds great. We are currently recording drums with 12 microphones. A ton of SM57s (even for overhead) then 3 mics on the bass drum (akg d100 on the beater with a shure 52 and the subkick on the front). With the money we saved we also bought an Audio Technica AT3031 for the high hat and a Shure beta 57a on the top of the snare. I had a senheiser e609 guitar mic which we placed under the snare which sounds really awesome also. 🙂 Sound clips up soon!

Future Upgrades and Other Info:

The microphone signal is currently way too hot. I had a 20db outline pad in the form of the Tube Pre from Presonus. Apperently even the subkick from yamaha needs something like this to be used properly. I also read that the Yamaha subkick has no resistors or anything of that sort. It is simple a 6 inch speaker with a cable plugged into it. We decided however to go a step further. We are adding a crossover and lpad to add resistance and have a sort of level control completely built into our subkick itself. This will eliminate the need of using a preamp to pad it. Also most people in the forums have been saying 6-8 inch speakers are ideal to creating something like this and that any ol run of the mil speaker will work. I will disagree with them completely. 6-8 inches will work, but the only thing size relates to is clarity. The most important factor about finding a speaker is the range of tones it can output. Ours was 40hz-2Khz which is perfect as mentioned before. The reason being that 40hz is the lowest possible recording frequency and people start rolling off at 32hz. So if you guys can find a speaker that will do this for you I say go for it, have fun and save some money.

By the way I am no pro. I have learned the above by talking to people and experimenting. Hope it helps someone out!

Parris

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